I found a revised text picture cover of Hollow Oak with blue multi endpapers.
The book meets the points for the 1972B-68 printing according to Farah's 12th edition.
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This printing is the introduction of the 1972 text and third cover art. It matches all points in Farah's Guide, including the two blank pages at the end (bl/bl) just before the endpapers. The book has blue multi endpapers, which is what got my attention. Normally, the books switched to the black and white multi endpapers when the text was revised.
I already have the same printing in my collection—or so I thought. This book has the black and white multi endpapers, unlike the above book.
The book does not have the extra blank pages at the front and the back, which means its points would be listed like this in Farah's Guide.
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The above points match the 1972A-67 printing, except that the book should have the original text and second cover art. Since this book has the revised text and third cover art, it should be the 1972B-68 printing, but the missing blank pages make it a mismatch.
I found another book that is identical to the one mentioned in "A Nancy Drew Revised Text PC with Blue Multi Endpapers." The book I just found is identical to the one pictured in that post down to every point.
I found a Haunted Bridge PC listing to Mirror Bay with reversed black and white multi endpapers.
The left and right endpapers are each on the wrong side. The rear endpapers are also reversed.
I found a Bungalow Mystery listing to Crooked Banister that has the black and white multi endpapers. This would not seem odd, except that I'm pretty sure that I normally see blue multi endpapers on all of the revised text Bungalow Mystery books up to 1973 printings. I checked several books in my possession, and I found blue multi endpapers.
Farah's Guide has never noted which endpapers are present for each specific printing, except for earlier formats. I am discovering that much is unknown about the endpapers for the revised text picture cover books.
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Jennifer, This is very interesting! Here is the info from my Farah's Guide **10th** edition for the introduction of the revised text and revised cover art for Hollow Oak:
1972B-66
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You will notice this is *exactly* the criteria of the book you have in your collection (the one with the black & white endpapers) that you thought was the 1st printing, until you saw the one with the blue endpapers. What is baffling is that this book - which as you see was listed in Farah's 10th as the 1st printing of the revised text - *is not* listed at all in the 12th edition! Am I understanding that right? There seems to be something wrong here, but I'm not sure exactly what.
You also mentioned a printing of Hollow Oak with the original text, but the new art. Such a printing doesn't show at all in my Farah's, and actually doesn't make sense since the synopsis is present. There would not be a synopsis of the original text, would there? So is there a synopsis of the revised text but the old story is actually in the book? In Farah's 10th, there is one 1972 printing shown previous to the intro of the revised text & art, and it does not have the revised text *or* art. The printing shown after the intro, was printed in 1973 and lists to #50, Double Jinx on the back. To me, this seems to make more sense than what is apparently in the 12th edition... I wonder if there was a mistake made when Farah attempted to add the "blue endpapers" book as a printing? I'm wondering if the book with blue endpapers is actually the anomaly or perhpas a mule, rather than the one with the black & white endpapers?
My "1st printing" (or so I thought) also has the black and white endpapers and no blank pages.
P.S. Google is losing comments again... when I hit "preview", I was taken to the log in page, and lost it all. Had to rewrite everything ... frustrating!
Part of the problem is that Farah has never made any statements about which picture cover books have which endpapers. He did it for the older books but not for these. That is part of what is confusing.
You also mentioned a printing of Hollow Oak with the original text, but the new art.
I think all that I meant is that the blue endpapers book is supposed to have the original text according to Farah's Guide but instead has the revised text. The entire text block matches the revised text including the synopsis. You are right that the original text books never had a synopsis.
Let me know if I need to make myself more clear in my comments in the original post. I might need to rewrite part of it. This easily gets very confusing. I imagine it is incomprehensible to people who do not have the books in front of them and are not very familiar with Farah's Guide.
I guess I wasn't clear on the point I was trying to make, LOL. The main point is that a 1972 printing of Hollow Oak that was listed in Farah's 10th, was deleted from the 12th edition. Specifically, the 1972 book with revised text and revised art and *no* blank pages was listed as the introduction of the revised text and art in Farah's 10th, but unexplainably was deleted from Farah's 12th. This is the book you already had in your collection, I have one also, and I suspect they are common. So, I think it was an error that it was deleted.
I also think it may be an error to say there is a book that exists with a synopsis and the original text. Suspecting two errors in regard to Farah's 12th information for the 1st revised printing of Hollow Oak, I think this may be an area that requires more investigation to determine the criteria for this printing.
My observations don't really have anything to do with which endpapers are in the book. However, it seems we do have two sets of criteria that could be considered the 1st printing - the book with blank pages (and only blue endpapers?) and the book without blank pages (and only with white endpapers?).
I also think it may be an error to say there is a book that exists with a synopsis and the original text.
I finally figured out that this part of my post is what is causing the confusion.
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The above points match the 1972A-67 printing, except that the book should have the original text and second cover art.
I should clarify that if the book had the original text like what is mentioned in Farah's Guide that it would not have the synopsis either. I was listing what my revised text book has, forgetting that it does not match the 1972A-67 printing in that one point as well, the synopsis. The 1972A-67 printing in Farah's 12th edition does not mention a synopsis. This is what is stated for that printing:
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What I was trying to do is point out that the different points other than the synopsis, cover art, and the revised text match that original text printing in Farah's Guide. It is a given that the revised text books always have a synopsis and that the original text books never do. I apologize for not being more clear.
Ah, that explains and clears up the problem I had with the criteria for the 1972A-67 printing. But what about my main point that the criteria for this book:
1972B-xx (xx=66 in farah's 10th)
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(***with revised text and art***)
seems to have been deleted from the 12th edition?
I'm assuming this from the info in your post and comments. 1972B-67 has original text. From your post, 1972B-68 has this criteria:
1972B-68
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Does the 69th printing match the criteria for the "no blank pages" book, or has that criteria/ printing been deleted from farah's 12th? In other words, the criteria for your book with the white endpapers and no blank pages *was* matched in Farah's 10th, but according to your post, it no longer matches a printing in Farah's 12th.
You are right; it does seem to be missing completely from Farah's 12th edition. I wonder if Farah had it identified and then later thought it was an error.
Since it is missing, I wonder where this printing of Hollow Oak falls among the others in the 12th edition? It is either a 1st or 2nd printing of the revised text. If there are a great number of books with blue endpapers and the blank pages, I presume the assumption would be that they are the first printing, because the blue endpapers are usually considered "earlier". On the other hand, if there are only a handful of books existing with blue endpapers and blank pages, and a greater number of books with the white endpapers and no blank pages, then an argument could be made that the "blue endpaper/blank pages" are the anomaly.
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